almost four times what the rest of public education costs. and the vast majority of our basis, we use public schools. we could take the money we're spending today, pay every public school system $14,000 per child, and save billions of dollars per year. and with the same or better outcomes. >> this weekend, you can talk with oklahoma senator tomko burn about the fiscal cliff and the future of the republican party. the senator has written several books and returns, including his latest, "the debt bomb." join our three hour conversation with your calls, emails, tweets and facebook comments. host: now joining us is long-time n.p.r. correspondent covering health policy julie rovner here to talk about some of the challenges that the health care law may be facing in the coming days and in the coming year. julie rovner, let's start with all the fiscal cliff. where does health policy, health care fit into this if at all. guest: well, obviously, there's nothing about the fiscal cliff that particularly impacts the health's law. we do know that starting